C&W Isle of
Man General Terms and Conditions
Cable & Wireless Isle
of Man (C&W IOM) Service Specific Terms and Conditions should
be read in conjunction with these C&W IOM General Terms and
Conditions. Where there is conflict, the Service Specific
Terms and Conditions supersede these General Terms and
Conditions.
1.
DEFINITION AND INTERPRETATION
In these terms and conditions:
"Acceptable Use
Policy" means a separate document showing the rules and
etiquette governing Our customers in their use of the Internet and
is available on Our website www.surecw.com.
"Agreement" means the contract between You and Us
incorporating these General Terms and Conditions, the C&W IOM
Service Specific Terms & Conditions, Our Application Form and
Service Schedule.
"Application" means a request
made by You to C&W IOM for the provision of a Service.
"Application
Form" means Our application form, signed by You, detailing
the Service and other relevant information forming part of this
Agreement.
"C&W IOM" means Cable
& Wireless Isle of Man Limited.
"Consumer Code of
Practice" means Our published Consumer Code of Practice
that can be seen on Our web site at surecw.com or sent to You upon
request.
"Contact
Details" means the name and telephone number of Your
authorised agent or employee who is Your contact point for this
Agreement.
"Customer Premises
Equipment" (CPE) means terminal and associated equipment
and inside wiring located at a Subscriber's premises and connected
to a Telecommunications System at a Network Terminating
Point.
"Electronic
Communication" means a communication for transmission by
means of an Electronic Communications Network.
"Electronic
Communications Network" means a telecommunications system
as defined in section 2 of the Telecommunications Act 1984 (of
Tynwald).
"Electronic
Communications Service" means a telecommunications service
as defined in section 2 of the Telecommunications Act 1984 (of
Tynwald).
"Fair Usage
Policy" means Our policy that applies to certain of Our
Services that provide access to the Internet. Our Fair Usage
Policy is available at
www.surecw.com/guernsey/page-1185.
Our Fair Usage Policy may change from time to time.
"Fault"
means any failure of the Service causing loss of the ability to
convey Electronic Communications, but does not include the loss of
such ability arising as a result of Our suspension of Service under
the provisions of this Agreement.
"Interconnection" means the linking (whether
directly or indirectly by physical or logical means, or by a
combination of physical and logical means) of one Public Electronic
Communications Network to another for the purpose of enabling the
persons using one of them to be able: a) to communicate with users
of the other one; or b) to make use of services provided by means
of the other one (whether by the provider of that Network or by
another person).
"Network
Terminating Point" means the physical point at which a
Subscriber is provided with access to a Public Electronic
Communications Network and, where it concerns Electronic
Communications Networks involving switching or routing, that
physical point is identified by means of a specific network
address, which may be linked to the Telephone Number or name of a
Subscriber.
"Normal Working
Hours" means work carried out between 08-30 to 17-30
hours, Monday to Friday (but excluding public/bank holidays in the
Isle of Man).
"Other Licensed
Operator" means any person who, other than Us, for the
time being, has the benefit of a telecommunications licence granted
under the Telecommunications Act 1984 (of Tynwald) or law in any
other jurisdiction under which a telecommunications licence has
been granted.
"Premises" means the premises
in which Service is or is to be provided under this
Agreement.
"Public
Telecommunications System" has the meaning given to it in
the Telecommunications Act 1984 (of Tynwald).
"Public Electronic
Communications Network" means an Electronic Communications
Network provided wholly or mainly for the purpose of making
Electronic Communications Services available to members of the
public.
"Public Electronic
Communications Service" means any Electronic
Communications Service that is provided so as to be available for
use by members of the public.
"Service" means a telecommunications service
or any facilities provided by Us for You in connection with the
Service, as specified in Our Application Form and service schedule
that forms part of this Agreement.
"Service Delivery Date" means
the date on which We make Service ready for use.
"Service
Schedule" means a schedule detailing additional terms and
conditions that form part of this Agreement.
"Subscriber" means any person who is party to a
contract with a provider of Public Electronic Communications
Services for the supply of such services.
"Telecommunications Apparatus" has the meaning
given to it in the Telecommunications Act 1984 (of Tynwald).
"Telecommunications Equipment" means equipment
designed, constructed or adapted for use in connection with the
establishment or operation of a Telecommunications System or the
provision of a Telecommunications Service, including
telecommunications apparatus, poles, structures, ducts, man-holes
and other tangible property.
"Telecommunications Service" has the meaning given
to it in the Telecommunications Act 1984 (of Tynwald).
"Telecommunications Systems" has the meaning given
to it in the Telecommunications Act 1984 (of Tynwald).
"Telephone Number" means any
number that is allocated to You by Us.
"You"or
"Your" means the customer entering into this
Agreement.
"We", "Us" or
"Our" means C&W IOM, and any other associated
organizations, other parties and authorised agents, contractors or
subcontractors that C&W IOM may choose to use in the provision
of all or any part of the Service.
Words in the singular include the plural and
vice versa.
2.
PROVISION OF SERVICE
2.1 We shall
provide Service to meet the Service Delivery Date specified in Our
Service Schedule or another date that We agree with You.
2.2 If
You ask Us to provide any part of the Service outside Normal
Working Hours then We will charge You at Our applicable hourly
rate.
3.
SPECIAL PROVISION OF SERVICE
3.1 If in
order to meet Your requirements We need to provide any part of the
Service in a non standard or exceptionally expensive manner then We
may make additional charges. We will notify You of any
additional charges prior to Our acceptance of Your Application and
You may cancel Your Application for Service within 14 days of the
notice being sent.
3.2 If
the special provision of Service requires additional or amended
terms and conditions then We will notify You of them prior to Our
acceptance of Your Application and You may cancel Your Application
for Service within 14 days of the notice being sent.
3.3 For
operational reasons, We may change the technical specification of
the service used by Us for provision of the Service to You,
provided that any change to the technical specification does not
materially adversely affect the performance of the Service.
3.4 You
may be asked to nominate a system administrator and provide Us with
full Contact Details for that individual.
4. USE
OF SERVICE
4.1 We
may from time to time give You instructions about the use of the
Service that We believe are in the interests of health, safety or
quality of service to You or other customers.
4.2 You
or any other person may only use the Service in accordance with the
Telecommunications Act 1984 (of Tynwald) and any instructions that
We may notify to You.
4.3 You shall not use the
Service or permit any other person to use the Service:
4.3.1 for any
communication that is grossly offensive or of an indecent, obscene
or menacing character;
4.3.2 for the purpose of
causing annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety to another by
sending Electronic Communications that are known to be false or of
a persistent nature; or
4.3.3 In breach of instructions We have given
You under paragraph 4.1.
4.3.4 in a manner that
violates C&W IOM's Acceptable Use Policy (which may change from
time to time and which currently may be found on C&W IOM's web
site at www.surecw.com) or any other policies referred to in this
Agreement.
4.3.5 in a manner that is
or could entail the commission of an offence that is a breach of
any relevant law or regulation.
4.4 In
addition to the rights given under Clause 14, We may give You
immediate notice and suspend the Service:
4.4.1 If it is used in a
manner that materially harms the integrity, security or
interoperability of the Telecommunications System;
4.4.2 Is used with
equipment that is not approved for connection to the
Telecommunications System; or
4.4.3 Under the direction
of a competent authority, if it is used in a manner, or in relation
to, the commission of offences against any relevant law or
regulation.
4.4.4 If it is used
in breach of conditions under 4.3 whether by You or any other party
with or without Your knowledge.
4.5 We
may vary the technical specification of the Service from time to
time and occasionally may have to change the Telephone
Number.
4.6 Our
Fair Usage Policy applies to some services You may take from
Us. If You use the Service in a way that violates
Our Fair Use Policy We may restrict Your use of the Service by any
means permitted under that policy. Such action may include,
but is not limited to, restricting the amount of capacity made
available to You for the use of the Service.
5.
TELECOMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT
See Service specific terms in the Service
Schedule applicable to that Service.
6. FAULT
REPAIR (Where applicable)
6.1 We
will provide You with a working Service although We cannot
guarantee that it will always be Fault free.
6.2 If
You detect a Fault in the Service then You must report it to Us by
telephoning the number specified in Our Service Specific Terms and
Conditions as applicable or any other number that We may notify You
of. You must provide Us with details of the nature of the
Fault, the Telephone Number and Contact Details so that We can
inform You of progress.
6.3 If
You report a Fault in the Service, We will respond as detailed in
Our Service Schedule to correct the Fault by undertaking one or
more of the following actions:
6.3.1 We will provide
advice to You by telephone including any tests and checks that You
should carry out;
6.3.2 Where appropriate, We will carry out
diagnostic tests from Our premises, or
6.3.3 Attend a point in
Our network or visit Your Premises if Our previous actions have not
cleared the Fault and We consider that such a visit is
necessary.
6.4 If We
undertake work to correct a reported Fault in the Service and find
there is none, We may charge You for the work at the applicable
hourly rate.
6.5 If,
at Your specific request, We agree to attend a reported Fault in a
Service outside Our Normal Working Hours then You will be charged
at the applicable hourly rate.
7.
RELOCATION AND RECONFIGURATION
7.1 If You ask Us to relocate
or reconfigure the Service then We may either:
7.1.1 agree to Your request and You must pay
Our applicable charges; or
7.1.2 require You to give notice to terminate
the Service and apply for a new Service.
8. TERM
OF SERVICE
The Service provided under
this Agreement is for an initial term of 12, 18 or 24 months as
stipulated on the Application Form (the "Initial Term") from the
Service Delivery Date and unless terminated under the provisions of
paragraph 14, 17 or otherwise will continue for one or more
continuous terms of the same length. A further Initial Term of
service shall apply in respect of each new facility added or
changes made to the Service at Your request.
9.
TEMPORARY SERVICE
If We accept an
application for the Service for a term that is less than the normal
term for the Service We shall regard the Service as temporary and
charge You accordingly.
10.
INTERCONNECTION
10.1 If the Service
requires Interconnection with Other Licensed Operators then We are
only responsible and liable for the part of the Service under Our
direct control.
10.2 We may suspend
or terminate the Service immediately, without notice, if any other
part of the Service is terminated or suspended.
10.3 We may negotiate
and enter into a contract for Service with Other Licensed Operators
on Your behalf as part of the provision of a Service. We
shall advise You of any specific or additional terms and conditions
of the Other Licensed Operator and You shall be responsible for
complying with them.
10.4 Where We are the
party contracting for Service with the Other Licensed Operator, We
will undertake to make payment for such Service directly to such
Other Licensed Operators. We will recharge such payments to
You either separately or within the Charges for the overall Service
and may do so in advance at Our sole discretion.
11.
CHARGES
11.1 All charges for Services, which may
be amended from time to time, can be obtained by contacting Us at
Our main office at Cable & Wireless Isle of Man Limited, 2nd
floor, 14 Athol Street, Douglas, Isle of Man IM1 1JA.
11.2 All charges include local taxes such
as VAT, if applicable, unless otherwise stated.
11.3 You are responsible for checking the
details and accuracy of Your bill.
12.
PAYMENT
12.1 You shall pay to
Us on demand all applicable charges for the relevant Service at
rates specified on Our Application Form.
12.2 All amounts due
under this agreement shall be paid in full without any deduction or
withholding other than as required by law. You shall not be
entitled to assert any credit, set-off or counterclaim against Us
in order to justify withholding payment of any such amount in whole
or in part.
12.3 We reserve the
right to charge interest on any balances which remain unpaid
from the due date to the date of payment and/or a late payment fee
at rates notified from time to time at
www.surecw.com.
13.
DEPOSITS, PAYMENTS IN ADVANCE AND SECURITY FOR
PAYMENTS
13.1 We may carry
out credit checks and refuse to provide the Service to You if the
result of the credit check is not satisfactory.
13.2 We may from
time to time require payment of a deposit. If a deposit is
required We shall notify You of the amount and You shall pay Us
immediately. We may credit the deposit against any charges
due to Us or upon discharge of Your liabilities to Us, refund it
together with any interest that We may deem appropriate.
13.3 We may from
time to time require You to provide Us with valid credit or debit
card details and authority to secure payment from that card in the
event that any outstanding bills are not paid by any other manner
agreed between us, including but not limited to You setting up a
direct debit instruction to Your Bank. If payment is required
We shall notify You of the amount and You shall ensure that such
payment will be honoured.
14.
DEFAULT
14.1 If You:
14.1.1 do not
pay within 21 days of any charge falling due or
break this Agreement in any other way We will send You a reminder,
stating that payment must be made within 7 days of that
reminder date. If payment is still not received by Us or
You
14.1.2 are subject to bankruptcy or
insolvency proceedings; or
14.1.3 do not prevent Service being used
in a way prohibited by this Agreement.
We can (without losing or reducing any other
rights or remedy):
a) suspend the Service (including
partially) temporarily without notice, though You remain liable to
pay rental during the period of suspension; or
b) terminate this
Agreement and the Service provided under it by immediate
notice.
14.2 More detail on
payment terms is provided in Our Bill Payment Code of Practice,
which forms part of Our Consumer Code of Practice. In
particular You should refer to it if You have difficulty paying
Us.
14.3 "Bankruptcy or
Insolvency proceedings" means bankruptcy proceedings, becoming
insolvent, making any composition or arrangements with creditors or
an assignment for their benefit, any execution, distress, diligence
or seizure; or if You are a company, being the subject of
proceedings for the appointment of an administrator, going into
liquidation whether voluntary or compulsory (except for the purpose
of amalgamation or reconstruction) or having receiver or
administrative receiver of any assets appointed.
14.4 If We terminate
this Agreement in accordance with paragraph 14.1 above, or
otherwise, as well as other sums payable up to the end of the
Agreement, You may be required to pay Us the rental or other
charges which would have been payable for the remainder of the
Initial Term of Service at the rate in force at termination but We
will make due allowances for any rental You have paid in advance
for a period ending after the end of the Initial Term of Service,
and make a repayment where appropriate.
14.5 As well as other sums that You may
become liable to pay for, You continue to be liable to pay all
charges that are due for the Service during the period in which You
do not comply with this Agreement until the end of the term of
service.
15.
CANCELLATION
15.1 Prior to the Service being provided,
this Agreement may be cancelled by:
15.1.1 You although We may make a charge
for any abortive work undertaken and/or any money spent to meet
Your requirements;
15.1.2 Us if paragraph 32 of this
Agreement applies.
16.
SUSPENSION
16.1 We may suspend
the Service immediately and without notice in an emergency in order
to provide or safeguard service to a hospital or to the emergency,
or other essential, services.
16.2 We may suspend
the Service giving You as much written or oral notice as reasonably
practical and possible and not less than 24 hours:
16.2.1 for the purpose of repair,
maintenance or improvement of Our Telecommunication System;
or
16.2.2 to permit the passage of vehicles
with abnormal loads.
16.3 We will restore
Service as soon as reasonably possible after the suspension.
Under no circumstances will any rebate of rental be granted for
such suspension of Service.
16.4 We may suspend
Service if You breach any of the terms of this Agreement.
17.
TERMINATION
17.1 We may terminate
this Agreement by giving You at least 30 days notice. If We
give You notice then You must pay rental and any other applicable
charges up to the expiry of the notice period. We will credit
or refund the appropriate proportion of any rental paid in advance
for the period after Your liability for rental ceases. If You have
been suspended from service due to non-payment of accounts We may
terminate the Service after one month should payment still be
outstanding.
17.2 We may terminate
or suspend provision of the Service to You in circumstances
described in these C&W IOM General Terms and Conditions and in
particular clauses 14 and 16.
17.3 You may
terminate this Agreement by giving written notice to Us of at least
30 days. If You terminate this Agreement during the Initial
Term of Service You shall be liable to pay the charges due until
the end of the Initial term at the rate in force at the time.
Outstanding rental charges shall not be payable if:
17.3.1 the Service is replaced with
another Service from Us that We deem to be comparable; or
17.3.2 We materially
change the rental charge or terms and conditions of this Agreement
to Your detriment.
17.4 Your notice does not avoid any other
liability for the Service already provided.
18. CALL MONITORING
AND RECORDING
We may monitor and record
calls made to or by Us. We do this for the protection of You
and Us, training, customer service and telemarketing
purposes.
19.
ACCOMMODATION, POWER AND LIGHTNING PROTECTION
See Service Specific Terms and Conditions
and the Service Schedule applicable to that Service.
20.
CUSTOMER PREMISES EQUIPMENT
See Service Specific Terms and Conditions and
the Service Schedule applicable to that Service.
21.
INFORMATION AND PERMISSIONS
21.1 You must provide
to Us when asked any information and /or co-operation that We may
reasonably require in order for Us to provide the Service under
this Agreement.
21.2 You shall
promptly inform Us of any changes to any details originally
provided to Us in relation to the Service and this Agreement.
21.3 In order to
investigate abuse of the Telecommunications System You must provide
to Us, when asked, any information and records relating to the use
of the Service or equipment.
22
CONFIDENTIALITY
22.1 The parties will
keep in confidence any information (whether written or oral) of a
confidential nature (including software and manuals) obtained under
this Agreement and will not disclose that information to any person
(other than their employees or any entity in the C&W Group)
without the written consent of the other party.
22.2 This paragraph 22 will not apply
to:
22.2.1 any information that has been published
other than through a breach of this Agreement;
22.2.2 information lawfully in the possession
of the recipient before the relevant disclosure;
22.2.3 information obtained from a third party
who is free to disclose it; and
22.2.4 information that a party is requested to
disclose and if it did not could be required by law to do so.
23.
ACCESS TO PREMISES
See Service Specific Terms and Conditions and
the Service Schedule applicable to that Service.
24.
COMPLAINTS AND ARBITRATION
All complaints and arbitration shall be dealt
with in accordance with Our Consumer Code of Practice.
25.
ASSIGNMENT / SUBCONTRACT
We shall have the right to
assign, subcontract or transfer all or any of Our rights and
obligations under this Agreement to any person and shall notify You
prior to exercising the right to assign, subcontract or transfer
such rights or obligations.
26.
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
26.1 Any intellectual
property rights existing in any information, software and equipment
supplied to You in connection with the Service shall remain Ours or
the appropriate owners of such intellectual property rights.
Such information shall not be copied, used or disclosed (other than
for the purpose for which it was supplied) without Our prior
written consent.
26.2 The words or
marks "Cable & Wireless" and "Sure" however represented,
including stylised representations, all associated logos and
symbols, and combinations of any of the foregoing with another word
or mark, are the trade marks of Cable & Wireless or one of the
Cable & Wireless Group companies or third parties. ALL RIGHTS
RESERVED.
27
COPYRIGHT
Copyright of all
information supplied to You in connection with the Service shall
remain Ours or the copyright owners. Such information shall
not be copied, used or disclosed (other than for the purpose for
which it was supplied) without Our prior written consent.
28.
DURATION AND ENTIRE AGREEMENT
28.1 This Agreement
shall come into force immediately and shall continue until the
Service is terminated.
28.2 This Agreement
sets out the entire terms and conditions under which We provide
Service to You.
28.3 Any clause that
is expressly or implicitly intended to survive the termination of
this Agreement shall survive termination of this Agreement.
29.
INDEMNITY
You must indemnify Us
against all claims that anyone other than Yourself threatens or
makes against Us because of the way in which the Service is
used.
30.
LAW
This Agreement shall be
governed by and constructed and interpreted in accordance with the
Laws of the Isle of Man, and each party hereby submits to the
exclusive jurisdiction of the Isle of Man Courts.
31.
LIABILITY
31.1 We do not
exclude or restrict liability for death or personal injury
resulting from Our negligence.
31.2 We are not
liable to You either in contract, tort, (including negligence) or
otherwise for loss (whether direct or indirect) of profits,
business or anticipated savings, or for any indirect or
consequential loss or damage whatever.
31.3 Our liability to
You in contract, tort (including negligence) or otherwise in
relation to provision of the Service, or otherwise under this
Agreement, is limited to the value of any amounts paid by You to Us
under this Agreement in any 12 month rolling period, starting on
the date on which We commence the provision of the Service in
accordance with clause 2.1.
31.4 Each provision
of this paragraph limiting or excluding liability operates
separately. If any part is held unreasonable or inapplicable
in any circumstances the other parts shall continue to apply.
31.5 We will accept
liability for failure to meet any of Our obligations stated in any
Service Schedule applicable to the Service but only to the extent
stated in paragraph 31 and as limited in paragraph 32 of this
Agreement and in the relevant Service Specific Terms and Conditions
and Service Schedule. In any conflict between the terms and
conditions of paragraph 31 and the applicable Service Specific
Terms and Conditions or Service Schedule the terms and conditions
of paragraph 31 shall prevail.
31.6 You are
responsible for the security and use of any access code, password
or PIN numbers used with the Service. You are advised not to
use them with Customer Premises Equipment or any other appropriate
equipment that has a memory, such as telephones with last number
dialled and display facilities. We will not be held liable
for any loss that You may suffer as a result of Your failure to
comply with this clause.
31.7 Customer
Premises Equipment DOES NOT provide immunity from fraudulent
intrusion or hacking and You are responsible for ensuring that You
have taken all measures to prevent such fraudulent use of Your CPE
which may include hacking or any form of toll fraud, rogue dialling
or other forms of fraud that causes Your CPE to make calls or incur
charges that You are not aware of. We will not be held liable
for any loss that You may incur as a result of any failure to
comply with these terms and conditions or as a result of any
fraudulent activity that is conducted against You through Your CPE.
We do not monitor the usage of Your CPE on an individual basis and
the monitoring of the charges incurred by You is Your
responsibility. In the event that We incur charges as a result of
any hacking or fraudulent activity, then We will seek to recover
those charges from You in full and You will pay all such charges as
may have been incurred.
32.
MATTERS BEYOND REASONABLE CONTROL
We are not liable for any
breach of this Agreement which is caused by a matter beyond Our
reasonable control including but not limited to Act of God, fire,
lightning, explosion, war, disorder, flood, industrial disputes
(whether or not involving their employees), extremely severe
weather or acts of government or other competent authorities. If We
are prevented by restrictions of a legal or regulatory nature from
supplying the Service, We will have no liability to You for failure
to supply the Service.
33.
NOTICE
33.1 Notices given
under this Agreement must be in writing and delivered by hand or
sent by facsimile or prepaid post as follows:
33.1.1 To Us: at the
address of Our office shown on Our Application Form or on Your last
bill or any alternative address that We may notify You of;
33.1.2 To You: at
the address that You ask Us to send bills, the address of the
Premises, or if You are a limited company to Your registered
office.
34. USE OF
INFORMATION
34.1 You warrant that
You have and do, and undertake that You will, comply with all
applicable data protection legislation including, without
limitation, the Data Protection Act 2002.
34.2 We warrant that
We have and do, and undertake that We will, comply with all
applicable data protection legislation including, without
limitation, the Data Protection Act 2002.
34.3 We will use the
information We have about You and Your use of the Service for
marketing purposes. We will not do so if You ask Us not
to.
34.4 We will process
Your billing data and information about Your use of the Service for
marketing Our own telecommunications products and services.
This enables Us to better inform You about products, services and
options that We provide and believe may be of particular interest
to You. We will not disclose this information to anyone other
than members of the Cable & Wireless Group. We need Your
consent to continue to give You all the benefits that this
processing provides and You should indicate if you do not wish to
provide us with such consent on the Application Form for the
Service.
34.5 We may pass
information We have about You to other companies within the Cable
& Wireless Group in order to facilitate the provision of
service to You.
If any provision of this
contract is found to be invalid or unenforceable, the validity and
enforceability of the remaining provisions shall not be affected by
that finding.
36.
VARIATION
36.1 If, during the
term of the Agreement, We send to You a revised version of these
terms together with a notice stating when they shall come into
force and You continue to make use of the Services after such date,
then You shall be deemed to have accepted the revised terms with
effect from the date specified in the notice. In the event that You
notify Us within 30 days of such notice that You do not accept the
revised terms, the revised terms shall take effect from the expiry
of the Initial Period or, if relevant, the renewal Term then in
effect.
36.2 Notwithstanding
Clause 36.1, We shall have the right to modify the Agreement at any
time so as to comply with any regulations or other requirement
applicable to or imposed upon Us under the Conditions, by the
Communications Commission or by any competent authority.
36.3 Where
practicable, or unless necessary to comply with any regulatory
obligation to which We may from time to time be subject, We will
publish details of any change in each of Our main offices at least
21 days before the change is to take effect. We may also
provide You with notice of the change in the Isle of Man Courier,
on the next bill that is sent to You, or by letter or in any other
way, as We deem appropriate.
37.
WAIVER
If either party fails to
exercise or enforce any right conferred by this Agreement it shall
not be deemed to be a waiver of those rights nor bar the exercise
or enforcement of them on any later occasion. If We waive a
particular breach of this Agreement by You, that waiver is limited
to the particular breach.
Issue 5December 2008